Comments on: Apt Gone Crapt: My Hardy Roadblock http://coreythompson.com/2008/05/apt-gone-crapt-my-hardy-roadblock/ ...but I'm right! Get yer historical hero clay figurines now! Thu, 16 Oct 2008 03:21:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: hari http://coreythompson.com/2008/05/apt-gone-crapt-my-hardy-roadblock/#comment-3635 hari Sun, 25 May 2008 05:06:00 +0000 http://coreythompson.com/?p=1023#comment-3635 Slackware also breaks badly when you try to upgrade it sometimes. In fact, if you just upgrade packages blindly on Slackware, it borks the system worse than any system I've used. Slackware isn't a magic bullet. In fact, it's the opposite and throws the blame on the user if anything goes wrong, because its scripts are very, very basic and almost useless when you need to get something done quickly. I've used Debian for 7 years and never had a system break yet (except once when running "Unstable"). For the convenience Debian offers, it's breakages are very few. Slackware, on the other hand, asks the user to do everything and then throws the blame on the user if anything goes wrong and actually makes the user proud of having broken the system because it's supposed to be an "advanced" Linux distribution. A very clever distribution policy.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('3635','hari'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('3635','hari','Slackware also breaks badly when you try to upgrade it sometimes.\n\nIn fact, if you just upgrade packages blindly on Slackware, it borks the system worse than any system I\'ve used. Slackware isn\'t a magic bullet. In fact, it\'s the opposite and throws the blame on the user if anything goes wrong, because its scripts are very, very basic and almost useless when you need to get something done quickly.\n\nI\'ve used Debian for 7 years and never had a system break yet (except once when running \"Unstable\").\n\nFor the convenience Debian offers, it\'s breakages are very few. \n\nSlackware, on the other hand, asks the user to do everything and then throws the blame on the user if anything goes wrong and actually makes the user proud of having broken the system because it\'s supposed to be an \"advanced\" Linux distribution. A very clever distribution policy.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Slackware also breaks badly when you try to upgrade it sometimes.

In fact, if you just upgrade packages blindly on Slackware, it borks the system worse than any system I’ve used. Slackware isn’t a magic bullet. In fact, it’s the opposite and throws the blame on the user if anything goes wrong, because its scripts are very, very basic and almost useless when you need to get something done quickly.

I’ve used Debian for 7 years and never had a system break yet (except once when running “Unstable”).

For the convenience Debian offers, it’s breakages are very few.

Slackware, on the other hand, asks the user to do everything and then throws the blame on the user if anything goes wrong and actually makes the user proud of having broken the system because it’s supposed to be an “advanced” Linux distribution. A very clever distribution policy.

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]]> By: mrcorey http://coreythompson.com/2008/05/apt-gone-crapt-my-hardy-roadblock/#comment-3603 mrcorey Wed, 14 May 2008 10:13:48 +0000 http://coreythompson.com/?p=1023#comment-3603 The way that I figure it is if I have to install everything one at a time, I'll do a BLFS install (which I might do anyways - its one I haven't tried to do).<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('3603','mrcorey'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('3603','mrcorey','The way that I figure it is if I have to install everything one at a time, I\'ll do a BLFS install (which I might do anyways - its one I haven\'t tried to do).'); return false;">Quote</a></div> The way that I figure it is if I have to install everything one at a time, I’ll do a BLFS install (which I might do anyways - its one I haven’t tried to do).
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]]> By: drew http://coreythompson.com/2008/05/apt-gone-crapt-my-hardy-roadblock/#comment-3600 drew Wed, 14 May 2008 02:32:18 +0000 http://coreythompson.com/?p=1023#comment-3600 Every distribution I've used (more than a few hours or days) has borked except one, Slackware. It's the only one where I did actually screw up a glibc upgrade an was able to recover. It's just not that simply with Redhat or RPM based distributions. But I've heard a lot of complaints coming from Ubuntu users I know. Several who use it have mentioned it seems the latest updates are breaking left and right. And no, it's not the users, one of the guys is probably one of the best administrators in Austin, TX. Ubuntu to me is losing it's good track record, seems they're getting sloppy.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('3600','drew'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('3600','drew','Every distribution I\'ve used (more than a few hours or days) has borked except one, Slackware. It\'s the only one where I did actually screw up a glibc upgrade an was able to recover. It\'s just not that simply with Redhat or RPM based distributions.\r\n\r\nBut I\'ve heard a lot of complaints coming from Ubuntu users I know. Several who use it have mentioned it seems the latest updates are breaking left and right. And no, it\'s not the users, one of the guys is probably one of the best administrators in Austin, TX.\r\n\r\nUbuntu to me is losing it\'s good track record, seems they\'re getting sloppy.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Every distribution I’ve used (more than a few hours or days) has borked except one, Slackware. It’s the only one where I did actually screw up a glibc upgrade an was able to recover. It’s just not that simply with Redhat or RPM based distributions.

But I’ve heard a lot of complaints coming from Ubuntu users I know. Several who use it have mentioned it seems the latest updates are breaking left and right. And no, it’s not the users, one of the guys is probably one of the best administrators in Austin, TX.

Ubuntu to me is losing it’s good track record, seems they’re getting sloppy.

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]]> By: mrcorey http://coreythompson.com/2008/05/apt-gone-crapt-my-hardy-roadblock/#comment-3590 mrcorey Thu, 08 May 2008 09:42:14 +0000 http://coreythompson.com/?p=1023#comment-3590 not surprised that you're pretending to not know what I'm talking about :P<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('3590','mrcorey'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('3590','mrcorey','not surprised that you\'re pretending to not know what I\'m talking about :P'); return false;">Quote</a></div> not surprised that you’re pretending to not know what I’m talking about :P
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