Comments on: Hardy, Java, Firefox 3 http://coreythompson.com/2008/02/hardy-java-firefox-3/ ...but I'm right! Sun, 07 Sep 2008 22:04:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: TheCure http://coreythompson.com/2008/02/hardy-java-firefox-3/#comment-3336 TheCure Tue, 04 Mar 2008 08:23:52 +0000 http://coreythompson.com/2008/02/26/hardy-java-firefox-3/#comment-3336 Thanks for the tip.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('3336','TheCure'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('3336','TheCure','Thanks for the tip.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Thanks for the tip.
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]]> By: MrCorey http://coreythompson.com/2008/02/hardy-java-firefox-3/#comment-3309 MrCorey Thu, 28 Feb 2008 15:39:33 +0000 http://coreythompson.com/2008/02/26/hardy-java-firefox-3/#comment-3309 I agree with both of you. :) Hari, Devin is just bemoaning the fact that he has to use an applet in his job that has to run on a certain (extremely old) version of Sun's jvm (version 1.3 something) and its as slow as molassas going uphill in the winter.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('3309','MrCorey'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('3309','MrCorey','I agree with both of you. :) Hari, Devin is just bemoaning the fact that he has to use an applet in his job that has to run on a certain (extremely old) version of Sun\'s jvm (version 1.3 something) and its as slow as molassas going uphill in the winter.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I agree with both of you. :) Hari, Devin is just bemoaning the fact that he has to use an applet in his job that has to run on a certain (extremely old) version of Sun’s jvm (version 1.3 something) and its as slow as molassas going uphill in the winter.
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]]> By: hari http://coreythompson.com/2008/02/hardy-java-firefox-3/#comment-3308 hari Thu, 28 Feb 2008 13:36:10 +0000 http://coreythompson.com/2008/02/26/hardy-java-firefox-3/#comment-3308 I still feel Java has a lot to offer, but unfortunately Java never really became popular either as a server side scripting language or a client side applet. What *has* become popular is alternative technologies like embedded Flash and Javascript. Will Java ever catch up? I'm not sure it will on the hobbyist/amateur web development platform, but on corporate servers, I guess it will still some value.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('3308','hari'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('3308','hari','I still feel Java has a lot to offer, but unfortunately Java never really became popular either as a server side scripting language or a client side applet. What *has* become popular is alternative technologies like embedded Flash and Javascript. \r\n\r\nWill Java ever catch up? I\'m not sure it will on the hobbyist\/amateur web development platform, but on corporate servers, I guess it will still some value.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I still feel Java has a lot to offer, but unfortunately Java never really became popular either as a server side scripting language or a client side applet. What *has* become popular is alternative technologies like embedded Flash and Javascript.

Will Java ever catch up? I’m not sure it will on the hobbyist/amateur web development platform, but on corporate servers, I guess it will still some value.

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]]> By: devin http://coreythompson.com/2008/02/hardy-java-firefox-3/#comment-3302 devin Wed, 27 Feb 2008 10:35:52 +0000 http://coreythompson.com/2008/02/26/hardy-java-firefox-3/#comment-3302 Viewing this thread of Ajax versus Java at http://www.javalobby.org/java/forums/t65704.html makes me realize the importance of the good ol stand alone applications! One malcontented person goes on to heap the blame on SUN saying: "The blame belongs squarely on the shoulders of Sun. Sun was not able cut a deal with Dell to include a JVM by default. Sun was not able to deliver a JRE that could update itself. Sun was not able to cut a deal with MS (ok so maybe that's not so much their fault). Sun was not able to make java web start not suck so much or so ugly. Sun was not able to deliver a JVM that could share applications. Sun was not able to deliver a non sucky performance GUI till 1.5. Sure we all waited around patiently for Sun to deliver on the promise of java but everybody else with a dollop of common sense has left. All that's left in the building of Java GUI apps and applets are the true believers. The rest of world has moved on. Right now they are all going on the AJAX train because although it doesn't promise much it actually delivers on it's promises. So lets all blame the right party here. Sun is as fault, nobody else."<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('3302','devin'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('3302','devin','Viewing this thread of Ajax versus Java at http:\/\/www.javalobby.org\/java\/forums\/t65704.html makes me realize the importance of the good ol stand alone applications!\r\n\r\nOne malcontented person goes on to heap the blame on SUN saying: \"The blame belongs squarely on the shoulders of Sun. Sun was not able cut a deal with Dell to include a JVM by default. Sun was not able to deliver a JRE that could update itself. Sun was not able to cut a deal with MS (ok so maybe that\'s not so much their fault). Sun was not able to make java web start not suck so much or so ugly. Sun was not able to deliver a JVM that could share applications. Sun was not able to deliver a non sucky performance GUI till 1.5. \r\n\r\nSure we all waited around patiently for Sun to deliver on the promise of java but everybody else with a dollop of common sense has left. All that\'s left in the building of Java GUI apps and applets are the true believers. The rest of world has moved on. Right now they are all going on the AJAX train because although it doesn\'t promise much it actually delivers on it\'s promises. \r\n\r\nSo lets all blame the right party here. Sun is as fault, nobody else.\"'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Viewing this thread of Ajax versus Java at http://www.javalobby.org/java/forums/t65704.html makes me realize the importance of the good ol stand alone applications!

One malcontented person goes on to heap the blame on SUN saying: “The blame belongs squarely on the shoulders of Sun. Sun was not able cut a deal with Dell to include a JVM by default. Sun was not able to deliver a JRE that could update itself. Sun was not able to cut a deal with MS (ok so maybe that’s not so much their fault). Sun was not able to make java web start not suck so much or so ugly. Sun was not able to deliver a JVM that could share applications. Sun was not able to deliver a non sucky performance GUI till 1.5.

Sure we all waited around patiently for Sun to deliver on the promise of java but everybody else with a dollop of common sense has left. All that’s left in the building of Java GUI apps and applets are the true believers. The rest of world has moved on. Right now they are all going on the AJAX train because although it doesn’t promise much it actually delivers on it’s promises.

So lets all blame the right party here. Sun is as fault, nobody else.”

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